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Clinton & her support for late term abortion; a comprehensive look

On Wednesday, October 19th Mrs. Clinton went full throttle for abortion throughout pregnancy. It occurred early in her debate with Mr. Trump. Below is the dialogue; you can see the full article where this is excerpted from here at LifeNews. It was originally published  in  National Right to Life News Today.  Below the excerpt we have responses to her support for what amounts to infanticide. Bear in mind that there is never a medical justification for late term abortion, because abortions after approximately 16 weeks are 2-3 day procedures. This is because of the necessity of dilating the cervix with laminaria, which are left in for at least one night. If it's a life threatening situation, the procedure should be an emergency caesarean section and an effort to save both patients.

Wallace (Chris Wallace, the debate moderator) drilled down another thousand feet on Clinton as well:

I wanted to ask you Secretary Clinton, I want to explore how far you think the right to abortion goes. You have been quoted as saying that the fetus has no constitutional rights. You also voted against a ban on late-term partial birth abortions. Why?

Clinton gave her usual answer–that Roe allows for some “regulation,” provided there is an exception for “the health of the mother.” Of course, for 43 years the health exception has swallowed the rule as thoroughly as a python gulps down its supper.

To his great credit, Trump called her out:

Well I think it is terrible. If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month you can take [the] baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby. Now, you can say that that is okay and Hillary can say that that is okay, but it’s not okay with me. Because based on what she is saying and based on where she’s going and where she’s been, you can take [the] baby and rip the baby out of the womb. In the ninth month. On the final day. And that’s not acceptable.

Clinton responded that this is just “scare rhetoric,” as if what she supports doesn’t frighten mainstream America. “And I will stand up for that right,” she added.

Trump’s answer?

And honestly, nobody has business doing what I just said. Doing that as late as one or two or three or four days prior to birth. Nobody has that [right].

 

The NY State health department keeps extensive statistics on abortion in the State - age, race, ethnicity, gestation, number of prior abortions, where done, financial coverage, and operative procedures. according to the latest statistices (2014) there were 2,106 abortion at 20+ weeks.

Some rejoinders to Clinton -

This from the Catholic League - hit the link for the full PR -

Apologists also contest what partial-birth abortion really is. Dr. Jen Gunter, for instance, protests Trump’s comment about “ripping” the baby out of the mother’s womb. She says “we don’t ‘rip’ anything in OB/GYN.” So what do they do? “We use sharp dissection and blunt dissection, but we don’t rip.” How reassuring to know that when a scissors is jammed into the skull of a baby about to be born that nothing is “ripped.”

This from Consistent Life, the Consistent Ethic of Life website

Clinton and Children
 
        Hillary Clinton showed something about her often-stated concern for children in the October 19 US presidential debate. For full protection, the children need to be entirely born. Being near birth isn’t good enough. She defended very late-term abortions for reasons including “something terrible has happened or just been discovered about the pregnancy.”
        Though not specific, this could mean when the child is discovered to have “fetal abnormalities” – at least, this is a common justification for very late-term abortions.
        Killing someone because she has disabilities is horrible enough, but a positive portrayal of aborting those with disabilities (as is common in the media) can be devastating to efforts to stop discrimination against disabled children and adults.
        But did that vague phrase mean that? The current Democratic Party Platform is extreme enough to suggest so. If only the press would dig down deeper and ask for clarification.  

The NY Times had an op ed today (October 21, '16.) promoting just that - the baby destroyed at 22 weeks because of a disability.

In National Review today, touching on the Second Amendment and abortion - we only are concerned here with abortion -

Hillary Clinton Relentlessly Exploits Voter Ignorance

 

But Hillary has been steadfast in her belief that a woman should be able to hire a doctor to kill her child at any moment before the child is entirely delivered. Yes, even when it’s halfway out, the doctor should be able to lawfully jam scissors into the back of the child’s skull. That’s Hillary’s belief. She cannot, however, own it honestly to the American people. Defending her vote against banning partial-birth abortion, she said this:

 

The kinds of cases that fall at the end of pregnancy are often the most heartbreaking, painful decisions for families to make. I have met with womenwho have, toward the end of their pregnancy, get the worst news one could get. That their health is in jeopardy if they continue to carry to term. Or that something terrible has happened or just been discovered about the pregnancy. I do not think the United States government should be stepping in and making those most personal of decisions. So you can regulate if you are doing so with the life and the health of the mother taken into account.

 

She’s counting on the fact that most Americans have no idea that when she’s referring to health, she’s referring not just to physical health — physical harm or injury to the mother — but also to the mother’s psychological, emotional, and even familial sense of “well-being.” How do we know this? Because it’s in the very Supreme Court jurisprudence, the Doe v. Bolton case, that she so proudly protects. Hillary’s tactics wouldn’t work so well in a functioning media environment. But when reporters largely agree with her policy positions, the various “fact checkers” and other watchdogs are off to the races to find some way, any way that her arguments have merit.

 

 

Lastly, The Eclipse of Reason is a video produced by the late Dr. Bernard Nathanson in 1987 showing an abortion at 20 weeks. Nathanson was an Ob-Gyn and secular Jewish atheist who was a co-founder of NARAL (National  Abortion Rights Action League) an abortionist himself (he aborted one of his own children) and for several years the director of the largest abortion "clinic" in New York City. But he began to realize what he was doing, re-thought his own life, became pro-life and eventually became a Catholic. He is better known for the video The Silent Scream showing an abortion at 12 weeks, but he also produced the aptly named Eclipse of Reason. You can view the Eclipse of Reason either embedded below or hit the link above. Charlton Heston introduces the video.

 

 

 

 

A quotation from Faye Wattleton, former head of PP

Wattleton, head of Planned Parenthood from 1978 to 1992. With thanks to Consistent Life  for providing this quote.

 

Faye Wattleton on Donahue, May 15, 1989, Transcript #3288 NBC.

"Women are not stupid ... women have always known that there was a  life there."

Archbishop Chaput on building a culture of life

A fine recent talk given by the Archbishop at an event in Fargo, North Dokota

He does make one error; Norma McCorvey, the Roe of Roe vs. Wade never had an abortion.

Here's the link:

Building a Culture of Life

As I was gathering my thoughts for today, a line from Psalm 89 came back to me again and again: [Lord,] make us know the shortness of our life that we may gain wisdom of heart.  That’s an odd way to begin a prolife discussion, isn’t it – reminding everybody in the room that we don’t have a lot of time. 

But I think it’s exactly the right place to start.  The time we have in this world is brief.  God is good, and the life he gives us is filled not just with problems and sorrow, but with beauty and joy and love and hope and nobility – and these things are worth fighting for.  What we do in the world matters.  How we use our time matters.  And therefore the choices we make matter – precisely because we come this way only once, and the world will be better or worse for our passing. 

So our presence here together today has a meaning much larger than a nice meal and a good conversation about shared values.  It’s an opportunity to remember that God put us here for a purpose.  He’s asking us to turn our hearts to building the kind of world that embodies his love and honors the sanctity of the human children he created.

The Pope: "Bishops have the right to tell their citizens how to use their vote to promote the common good."

Speaking to the Bishops of Brazil -

 

A Gandhi quote

Sent to us by Peace and Life Connections, a seamless garment/consistent ethic of life group.

Quotations of the Week

On the occasion of the Gandhi-King Conference on Peacemaking October 22-24 in Memphis, we offer two quotes from Mohandas Gandhi.        “I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary – the evil it does is permanent.”

       “It seems to me clear as daylight that abortion would be a crime.” (from All Men Are Brothers, Autobiographical Reflections, New York: Continuum, 1980, p. 150)

90 Years of Women's Voting Rights celebrated at 2010 Women's Equality Day Reformed!

Thanks to all who helped make this year's 9th annual Westchester Women's Equality Day Reformed ceremony such a success! Held once again at the County Board of Legislators' Michaelian Building in White Plains, the day's events, its speakers and honored guests were preceded by a pre-ceremony invitation to visit the 9th floor offices of County Executive Rob Astorino, an original sponsor of the reformed event.

 

The County Executive presented Honoree Dr. Catherine T. Hickey of Yonkers with a County Proclamation honoring her remarkable career and multi-award winning leadership in the field of education.

Dr. Hickey is so proud of her six daughters and seventeen grandchildren. In attendance were two daughters, Clare Hickey and Joanne McMahon - granddaughter Delia Wirchansky holds Proclamation.

If you could not participate in person, here is a partial transcript.

(Co-chairperson Judith Anderson:)

Our Westchester Women’s Equality Day Reformed Committee welcomes you and thanks you for taking time to be with us to celebrate this amazing 90th anniversary of woman’s suffrage. It was on August 26, 1920 that the faith, foresight and fortitude of Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and Lurectia Mott and others were rewarded with full citizenship and participation through the granting of voting rights to women with the Ratification of the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution! Each ceremony for the last eight years has been uniquely gratifying for this Committee, and we hope for you as well. This, our 9^th year, is no exception. Our theme is “Calling Youth to Excellence in Education and Life”. Our honoree epitomizes that vision – longtime educator

and champion for youth, Dr. Catherine Hickey. Our wonderful keynote speaker is pediatrician Antoinette Cosentino, M.D. Her views and forthright approach to the day’s topic will give us all much to think and pray about during these challenging times.

We would first like to introduce those whose annual sponsorship allows us this space under equal access and free speech.   This year we are thrilled to have three sponsors who will say a few words to us  – our first is the Hon. Gordon A. Burrows of the County Board’s District 15. We also welcome the Hon. John G. Testa, District 1, and our most recently elected member of the County Board of Legislators, the Hon. Sheila Marcotte of District 10. Thank you, all.

John Testa, Gordon Burrows, Sheila Marcotte

This time last year our earliest WEDR sponsor at the Board, Rob Astorino, was a candidate for Westchester County Executive.  We congratulate Rob on his election victory, and we ask you all to keep him in our prayers during these difficult County budget cuts. We also thank him for meeting with us to wish us well prior to today's ceremony where he presented Dr. Hickey with a County Proclamation. Thank you, again, Rob.

Another important point. Regina Riely usually holds down the feminists-for-life fort with us on this day. She is in Wisconsin, but sends her regards to all. We miss her especially since it was through her work and subsequent successful lawsuit that we have been able to present these programs every year since at these, our citizens’ County offices.

With us today as co-MC is a familiar face, author Susan Konig. Susan, busy Mom of 4 children, author and columnist, was our memorable keynote speaker five years ago at Women’s Equality Day Reformed. Last year she ran for a County Board seat for District 9, losing to her opponent by only 12 votes! Thank you, Susan, and thanks to you all for joining us today – you are vital to the cause for life.

Now we will officially begin with our Invocation by Sister Mary McCaffrey of the John F. Kennedy High School in Somers.  

 

Susan Konig will  now lead us in the Pledge and National Anthem. Please stand.

 

(Co-chairperson Susan Konig continues:)

Most of you know that in 2006 Carol Crossed, President of the Susan B. Anthony Birthplace Museum and one of our first keynote speakers, purchased the original Anthony house in Adams, Massachusetts. The Museum that includes a pro-life exhibit and is now open. There are fliers in the front of the room, or you can find the museum online at www.susanbanthonybirthplace.org  Carol, a previous WEDR speaker, has agreed to be our guest speaker next year – our 10^th anniversary! There is also the possibility of an online article on the 90th anniversary that I am working on for National Review with Carol.

(Judy continues)

The previous recipients of our Mott-Stanton-Anthony award are listed in your

program this year, along with a commemorative bookmark for you! A special welcome

to Theresa Bonopartis and Mrs. Dorothea Muccigrosso who join us today in person.

Mildred Fay Jefferson, M.D. - surgeon, political activist & educator;

Lisa Marrero, M.D. - physician, Elinor Martin Residence counselor;

Dorothea Muccigrosso - educator, multi-cultural motivator;

The Domincan Sisters of Hawthorne at Rosary Hill Home – palliative end-of-life

caregivers to all in need;

Christine Mortell-Plazas – courageous prolife witness and women’s interracial business collaborator;

Gabrielle Long Wright  - midwife and Natural Family Planning instructor;

Rev. Geneva Patterson – pastor, worker and friend in service to incarcerated women

and the community;

Theresa Bonopartis – professional woman and advocate for post-abortive women

and men;

 

Today’s honoree, of course, is inspirational educator and mentor to youth,

Dr. Catherine Hickey

It was during the American Revolution that the notion of “republican motherhood”

came to the fore, that is, the essential role of mothers in instilling in their children

values conducive to a healthy Republic. As the saying goes, “Everything old is

new again,” for this sense of values necessary for a “healthy” society is challenging

us as a Republic today in ways we could not have imagined.

Fast-forward history. Most of you know that Mott, Stanton and Anthony were

involved with the abolitionist and temperance movements of their day. It was that

activism that led them into the fight for a woman’s right to vote that had begun earlier

in England. These early feminists in America courageously challenged the laws that

excluded them. The words of many of the suffragettes sought to elevate women, and

protect the vulnerable child in the womb. Despite what you hear – or rather don’t

hear - pro-life feminism is a most authentic part of our American history!

90 years and 37 years after Roe, we are asking women and men to see their roles

in society reflected in the lives of children as their primary protectors, and hopefully

inspirational role models. Women saw the problem of exclusion so clearly when

their voices were stifled as half-citizens. Today women have the vote, but the

problem now is excluding the unborn as not fully human.  Will women and men share life-affirming values? Will the next generation find grounding in a morality that

elevates human dignity that is ours from the Creator God in our Constitution?

As the first guardians of life women have always possessed a power and

responsibility that goes beyond self. It is a daunting challenge, without doubt,

but one that our feminist fore-mothers saw not as an impediment to personal

fulfillment, but as the ultimate expression of it. So should we all.

(Susan introduces keynote speaker, Antoinette Cosentino, M.D.)

Our guest speaker is a pediatrician graduated from Mt. Sinai School of

Medicine in 1992; she was in private practice in Teaneck, NJ before going into

private practice in Croton in 2002-2009. She is currently at home with her three

children Katherine 10, Anna 5, and Peter 15 months, and her husband Michael

Schwenck, who is a lawyer. She is Board Certified in Pediatrics and a Fellow of the

American Academy of Pediatrics, and we are privileged to have Dr. Antoinette

Cosentino address us today on "Calling Youth to Excellence in Education and Life". 

 

Antoinette gave a wonderful  talk with Q&A. Watch for video postings on LifeNet.

Watch for additional video postings, including the presentation by Mrs. Dorothea Muccigrosso to Dr. Hickey and her remarks, along with the day's commentary by Susan and Judy.

Our artist in residence, Brigid Faranda reads and presents the 2010 Mott-Stanton-Anthony award to Dr. Hickey; Judy presented roses on behalf of the HVCL.

Brigid, Susan Konig, Dr. Hickey, Judy

(Judy's closing remarks)

Today we are challenged as never before in our roles in society. Our very identity

as women and men is being questioned in an attempt to offer a gender-neutral

approach to parenting. This is not the equality that our feminist foremothers

envisioned. The expanding number of single-parent families has drawn women into

greater poverty and circumstances of violence. Men and women, both, have become

sandwiched in between the escalating violence to women and the child through

abortion on one end, and male-identity problems on the other side that include

violent acts by men against women who choose to give birth to their child, as well as increasing gang-related violence by young males seeking acceptance, while in need

of strong male role models in their lives.

Ten years from now, at our 100th anniversary of woman's suffrage, will women and men be looking at abortion as legal or as a shared blunder in society?

(Sending by Susan)

Thank you, Dr. Hickey and Dr. Cosentino.

As has been said, I have attended Women’s Equality Day Reformed as a guest

speaker, as a journalist and as a pro-lifer. The thought that women would not be

heard in the home or in the public square 90 years ago is hard for us to fathom.

The thought that pro-life women, mothers, families will not be heard now is even

more unfathomable.

Women who get up and speak out, like Dr. Cosentino and Dr. Hickey, are central

to our way of life.  They will not be bystanders when children are in danger. It’s

easier to hope that someone else will say something or do something. These women

take the tougher road. But it is a road that we all must walk in our own way. So I

urge you to give witness and support in the public square. Reflect on what it means

to be a woman, and share yourselves with others with a feminine dignity that is your

unique gift of self to the world, and thank you for continuing this remarkable American tradition of pro-life feminism, Women’s Equality Day Reformed.

Thank you all for all you do for life and to promote life-affirming choices for women.

Thank you for being part of this day honoring Westchester women.

Additional pictures of some of the day's 40 participants.

Dr. Hickey is flanked by her daughter Clare and granddaughter Delia

Dr. Hickey and Sr. Mary McCaffrey, who gave the invocation

Donna Grau-Dixon and Susan Konig

Joy Dechario and Richard Brand flank Judy Anderson

 

Yvonne Rivera, Ronnie McNally, Pat Vasta from Holy Name of Mary, Croton-on-Hudson

Ed Riely with Judge Matthew J. Byrne, running for New York State Supreme Court

Dorothea Muccigrosso with Marie Brand

Good fellowship & networking throughout the day! Thanks for your support!

 

  

HVCL's Women's Equality Day Reformed Press Release

Hudson Valley Coalition for Life, Inc.

  Ossining, NY 10562

914.329.5163

E-mail [email protected]

Press Release

July 14, 2010

TO:   Westchester and Putnam County media – radio, television, and newsprint 

    The media are invited to cover the event!

RE:   Women’s Equality Day Reformed – Friday, August 13, 2010

2010 THEME:  CALLING YOUTH TO EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION AND LIFE

    Westchester County Michaelian Building, 8^th floor Conference Room

    Martine Avenue & Court Street, White Plains, New York - 12 Noon-1 p.m.

Co-chairperson Judith Anderson addressed the Westchester County Board of Legislators on Monday evening, July 12, about the celebration of the 90^th anniversary (August 26) of women’s voting rights. Her comments follow:  

“Good evening Chairman Jenkins and members of the Board. As co-chair with Susan Konig and Regina Riely, I am pleased to speak before you once again about the 9^th Annual Westchester Women’s Equality Day Reformed that will have its annual celebration this year on Friday, August 13, here at the County Board Michaelian Building. We will commemorate 90 years of women being recognized with full citizenship through the granting of voting rights. Ninety years – quite a milestone! We, as always, extend an invitation to all members of the Board, but especially its women: Legislators Myers, Williams, Spreckman and Marcotte. We especially thank the Hon. Gordon A. Burrows who has been our sponsor for many years and the Hon. John G. Testa, also a sponsor this year. We thank them for attending and look forward to working with them this year on Board business, as well as with Sheila Marcotte. We hope she will join us each year, and for many years to come.

Our 2010 honoree is Dr. Catherine Hickey, Yonkers multi-award winning, life-long educator and recently retired Superintendent of Schools for the Archdiocese of New York. Our theme this year is ‘Calling Youth to Excellence in Education and Life’.

Women’s voices have been heard in the public square these last 90 years, and so what we have become as a society rests equally with women as with men - as it should be. The four women who sit on the County Board of Legislators are testaments to the unique voice and perspectives that women bring to the great debates of our time. When we speak of our young people in particular, we seek for them parents, heroes and heroines, teachers and mentors that inspire and call them to the highest standards in the classroom, and in the living of life itself.

The day’s program will challenge women on this occasion of reflection on the powerful words and actions of our most outspoken feminist foremothers – Lucretia Mott, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and Susan B. Anthony – who did not see the advancement of women or activism as opposed to motherhood; quite the opposite. Elizabeth Stanton was known to raise a flag outside of her home with the birth of each of her five children – shocking her neighbors in Seneca Falls surely as when she fought with Mott and Anthony for women’s voting rights! Join us on August 13. It will be another grand celebration!”

       

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From Consistent Life - "Feminism and Abortion, the Great Inconsistency"

From the weekly enewsletter of Consistent Life, Peace and Life Connections

Daphne Clair de Jong

“Feminism and Abortion: The Great Inconsistency”

reprinted in ProLife Feminism: Yesterday and Today

    “In the same way that many opponents of slavery and racism have failed to apply their principles to the question of women’s rights, so feminist writers have a peculiarly dense blind spot about the unborn. No argument in favour of freely available abortion is tenable in the light of feminist ideals and principles. And all of them bear an alarming resemblance to the arguments used by men to justify discrimination against women.”